tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-45397694583126744032024-03-13T12:38:34.163-04:00Barry Seidel's Law Practice BlogPractical Tips and Useful Advice for Lawyers in PracticeBarry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-48780729519041723022020-08-29T12:42:00.001-04:002020-08-30T10:01:21.406-04:00Top 10 Things I Learned From 38 Years in Law Practice<p>10. Trust but Verify.</p><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">9. The Courts are an inefficient place to resolve disputes.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">8. When people seem kinda crazy, it’s because they are.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">7. Ignoring problems never makes them better, it makes them way worse.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">6. Solving unsolvable problems doesn’t pay nearly as well as it should.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">5. One of the most valuable skills to learn, and one of the hardest, is to say NO when you should.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">4. Ethical attorneys know that ethics questions arise all the time. If you are in tune you see and consider them. Pay attention and don’t compromise yourself.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">3. Clients are often under stress. It comes with the territory. Respond as if you know that.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;">2. You are what you say you are, and every day you can refine how you define (yourself).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;">1. Being a lawyer in private practice is WAY harder than one might think, but overall it was/is worth it. What a long strange trip it’s been!!!</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><br /></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;">Bonus thing learned in the Pandemic: See reality and adjust. It's a gift we all have, IF we choose to accept it!!!</div>Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-88938467003209797472020-01-12T18:45:00.000-05:002020-01-12T18:49:57.289-05:00Making Great Referrals<h3 class="post-title entry-title" itemprop="name" style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #d52a33; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, "Palatino Linotype", Palatino, serif; font-size: 22px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; position: relative;">
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1. You have provided your client great legal services. Through YOUR knowledge of the client's legal issues, and contacts in the legal community, you got them to the right lawyer. You also probably gave the client some real advice, AND you got the new lawyer started right, by narrowing the issues. You might have done a credible job with the case....but your specialist referral will do it better, and we all know it.<br />
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2. Referral/participation fees. When you make money and someone else is doing the bulk of the work, and you are doing this repeatedly, this is just plain smart business. In the sophisticated business world, as opposed to the lawyer general practice world, this is called LEVERAGE. Leverage, in this context, is a good thing.<br />
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3. You will receive referrals back. Every time you make a referral, you have an opportunity to market for the cases you DO want. Specialists all get calls for cases outside their field, and they refer them out (because they are specialists). BE one of the lawyers they refer cases to.<br />
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4. You expand your network. You have someone to refer to the next time you get that call. Sometimes clients call and you don't have someone readily available for the referral. Don't immediately turn the client away. Get the facts, and use your resources to find them an attorney. Use the internet, call your attorney friends, check the County Bar Association committee lists, but MAKE SOME EFFORT. A specialist that you call after tracking them down, and hearing you say "I'm ______ an attorney in _____ County, and I have a client who needs an attorney who can do ______, and I found you by ___________" will respect you, will probably take the case, will pay you, will refer business to you, and will be someone you can refer to again. Expanding your network is always good.......</div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-78311736726310030592018-01-15T16:41:00.000-05:002020-01-12T20:41:28.408-05:00"Who is My Client?"Here's a paradox.......<br />
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"An attorney's ethics are directly proportional to the number of ethical issues he encounters".<br />
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This is because the most ethically aware attorneys will SEE issues as they arise, while the ethically challenged will be unaware of the problems they are about to encounter.<br />
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I wonder how many law students have taken an ethics course, and exams, and thought, "This is all academic; these things don't actually happen." Well, it's true in one way.....real practice is WAY stranger, and much more ethically challenging, than any law school exam.<br />
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If your practice is presenting you with ethical issues to resolve, you are not an unethical attorney. More likely you are highly ethical, and your diligence will serve you and your clients well.<br />
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At the core of many of these situations is a recurring question.......WHO IS MY CLIENT?<br />
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This arises in many contexts, but is especially prevalent in elder law, estate planning, and estate administration. Here are a few examples:<br />
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1. An elderly man and adult daughter make an appointment for "Dad to do a will" but the daughter is doing all the talking.<br />
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2. A person calls you and inquires about your fees because "Mom wants to sell her house".<br />
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3. A person calls you regarding petitioning for guardianship for their incompetent parent. Upon meeting the parent and adult child, you agree the person needs a guardian, but you then receive a call from another adult child, stating that the sibling you met with cannot be trusted with money.<br />
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4. Same scenario as #3, except when you meet the parent they tell you quite clearly that they don't want or need a guardian.<br />
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5. Same scenario as #4, except when you meet the parent a second time, they seem to have deteriorated mentally....Upon telling this to the two children, the first one tells you this is how it has been going, and the second one tells you that the other child has not been giving the parent their medication.<br />
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6. You are contacted by the child of a person who died six years ago. There is no will. The person who contacted you lives in the house owned by the decedent, and has lived there his whole life. There are three other children who do not live there, and have not taken any action, until recently they began to inquire. The person who contacted you wants to be the fiduciary.<br />
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All these scenarios are real. In fact, they are situations I have encountered in the past year alone! These situations have one thing in common. One cannot proceed until determining "who is the client?" and reconciling that with the appropriate ethical issues. Very often one CAN proceed but must (or should) obtain proper waivers from parties who could later criticize the conflict. Whether we get written waivers or not, prudence dictates documenting what we are doing and why.<br />
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Something I always do if a parent and child are in my office, and I sense a "Who is my client" situation.......I tell them that at some point I MUST meet with the parent alone, and I mean ALONE, and that I am doing this for their benefit. When I meet with the parent alone, I make very clear that I am THEIR attorney, that we have attorney client privilege, that I will not do anything they don't want, that they can call me on their own if they wish, etc....and, I DOCUMENT MY FILE that I have had this meeting. In some cases, I will ask an associate to sit in on the meeting, and make notes as well. It is THAT important.<br />
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It usually takes some work to untangle these initial ethical issues. Don't succumb to the temptation to ignore the issues.<br />
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In estate planning matters, don't be afraid to ask yourself "How is this going to look later?", and don't be afraid to ask that person (client?) across the desk "How is this going to look later?<br />
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I like being able to do right, and have it LOOK right. And what I tell the potential client, because it's true is: <b>WE WANT A RESULT THAT WILL STAND</b> <b> </b>(sorting out the ethical stuff really boosts the success likelihood. Most clients understand and appreciate this)Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-36575842164552539762017-12-04T19:01:00.001-05:002017-12-04T19:01:45.238-05:00Pro-se Adversaries<div style="margin: 0px;">
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In New York City Civil Court (jurisdiction up to $25,000), people often appear pro-se. Many of these are debt collection cases, but I have been involved in many cases where one side (the other side from my side) was pro-se. One might assume that those representing themselves have fools for clients. Indeed, sometimes they are fools, but if you assume it, you will prove another axiom, where "assume" makes an ass of u and me.</div>
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1. When you conference a case with a pro-se and a Judge, you will find the pro-se suddenly has a lawyer......the Judge!! This is not supposed to happen, but it does. Your job is to not let it happen that way. Here's a helpful tip....conference the case directly with the pro-se before you conference with the Court. I tell them that we don't have to talk but we are allowed to and we are here anyway. I make it clear that they don't have to talk to me and in any event, after we talk we will have a conference with the court. If they agree to talk (90% of the time they do) I try to find out what the issues are, and I am non-confrontational.<br />
When we conference with the Court, I say, right in front of the pro-se, "We have been discussing the issues, and if it will be helpful, I'd like to summarize what we talked about" then I look right at the pro-se and say "If I don't say it right, or if I leave anything out, please stop me, I want the Court to have a clear understanding of what this is about". I think most people are so nervous to talk to a Judge or a Court attorney, they are relieved that I am explaining it. I then tell it as straight as I can, and if they want to jump in, I let them. I find this approach limits "court advocacy" and encourages the pro-se litigant to explore settlement.</div>
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2. Sometimes pro-se adversaries study up and want to follow every rule, call you on every technicality, and play lawyer with you. They have a right to do this, and they assume that this is what lawyers do. Of course most lawyers, especially in Civil Court, don't do this. We usually try to figure out what the case is REALLY about, and find a fair way to resolve it. I laugh to myself sometimes when the pro-se defendant makes some brilliant legal argument to the Judge, and the Judge says "Yeah, but do you owe the money or not?"</div>
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Quick story.....I once tried a credit card debt case where the debtor owed about $10,000. At every conference he insisted that "you cannot PROVE it was me". He was especially emboldened when he saw that I did not have a witness for trial. All of the charges on the credit card seemed to relate to restaurant supplies for a shish-kebob restaurant. However, in all our conferences I did not let on that I knew that, nor did I ever show him the bills and ask him about it.<br />
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When we got sent upstairs for trial, the Judge told me to call my first witness, and of course I said "I call the defendant." He said "He can't do that!", to which the Judge replied "Yes, he can....take the stand." I then asked him questions about where he lived, what he did for a living, and the like. Most of it was not useful, but I did get him to confirm his address (at the time of the bills I had). He also confirmed that in all the time he lived there he never had a problem receiving mail. I really nailed these two items home....correct address and mail being received.<br />
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I then asked him if he had ever received a bill from my client, and he denied it. I then asked him if he had ever owned a shish-kebob restaurant, and he denied it. I asked him if he had ever helped open a shish-kebob restaurant, and to my surprise he said "Yes, I have worked in these restaurants all my adult life, and I once helped my friend open one." I asked "Where was it?" Turns out it was about two blocks from his address. I then took out my $10,000 worth of shish-kebob supply charges, and questioned him about it. He denied having anything to do with it, but the big red "L" was lit up on his forehead.</div>
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When I got the decision in the mail I already knew: WINNER</div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-15351753136597989482017-09-09T18:27:00.000-04:002017-09-09T18:27:29.272-04:00Bad is BADLaw "jobs" may be scarce, but for the entrepreneurial, there is plenty of law business out there. One skill that separates the successes from the strugglers is recognizing and getting GOOD business, while simultaneously knowing and avoiding BAD business. Growing a healthy law practice starts with hearing clients' stories, and making good business decisions on whether they and their story will be profitable legal business.<br />
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1. The time spent on bad business takes away from two important things: good business and personal time. You can make up for bad business with good business, but only if you expand into personal time. Very unhealthy.</div>
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2. Bad business saps your energy. Squeaky wheels get your grease, which is the essence of bad business. Squeaking clients making a noise you can’t escape and have to attend to. So you grease it, and talk to it, and e-mail and meet with it. You travel to court for it and with it. Still, it squeaks. You grease it enough, it starts to quiet down and move along. Eventually, you and the squeak get to your destination, the case ends, and then you realize the third reason bad business is so bad.</div>
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4. Bad business produces bad karma. When you are a solo lawyer, your clients and their cases are your life (We'd all like to deny this, but it's true). When you have cases, you always have a certain “mix”. I realized this one day while talking to another solo. We were having a “can you top this” of problems, commiserating in our misery, when he asked, “Why are you so down today"? Without hesitating I answered “Bad mix right now”. He knew just what I meant and said, “Yeah, that’s a bad thing”. Since then, we start our discussions with “How’s the mix today?”</div>
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5. A bad mix, that you don't fix, makes you hate your practice. And if your practice is YOU, well, consider where that leads.</div>
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Here is my short list of bad kinds of cases, and the reasons they are bad (your actual bad cases may differ):</div>
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a. Residential real estate closings: Very often these have low fixed fees with no control over your time; plus clients who are generally not business people, and are now suddenly under intense pressure. These problems can be managed, but it's a big challenge.</div>
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b. Accident cases with minor injuries: You end up working your tail off, spending your own money, and the insurance company fights you. Now, it is true that every so often you hit a home run with an accident case. But sometimes there are no home runs in the mix, just soft tissue injuries that squeak a lot. </div>
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c. Landlord-tenant cases: Unless you do a lot of them, so it would make sense to hang around in Housing Court all day. Hanging around in Housing Court on one case is bad business.</div>
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d. Debt collection cases: a percentage of nothing is nothing. Never forget this. Yeah, you can collect once in awhile, but on all the ones where you get nothing, you never get back your time. </div>
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e. Purchase and sale of a small business: Unless you are really tough, and a super smart businessperson, and ruthless, and like to live on the ethical edge. As a young attorney, you find out right away that compared to other small business owners, you are a wimp. A nothing. You may be able to do the papers for the deal, but you don’t even know what the deals are really about. I’m not talking about corporate mergers here. I’m talking about representing someone buying a coffee shop or a laundromat. These transactions are WAY more complicated and difficult than you could imagine. </div>
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If you think these thoughts, and it's natural to do so, at some point you will recognize the many flaws in all of them. Hopefully this happens sooner rather than later. </div>
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It's easy to market for, and get, tons of bad business. Of course, if you get enough bad business, bad becomes good, you become the specialist, and you are the bad business go-to person. This can and does happen, and on many levels can be an excellent result of learning the lessons of bad business.</div>
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Bottom line: bad is bad, but bad can become good. If you don't know bad when you are in it, bad is VERY bad. If you can, figure out what good is right away, skip all this bad stuff, and go for good from the git-go. </div>
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-51789861472533935582017-05-12T13:58:00.000-04:002017-05-12T14:00:35.726-04:00Top 10 Things I Learned from 35 Years in Law Practice<div align="center" class="MsoNormalCxSpFirst" style="line-height: normal; text-align: center;">
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1. Being a lawyer in private practice is WAY
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-57516193571639306662016-03-20T16:21:00.000-04:002016-03-20T16:21:02.239-04:00The Next Big Thing in Law PracticeLimited scope representation (sometimes referred to as "unbundled legal services") may not be THE next big thing in law practice, but it is certainly A next big thing. It's an opportunity waiting to be seized by current and future attorneys, IF we are astute enough to make it happen.<br />
Like many things that affect the business of law, we will not be helped by ANY of the entities that ought to be helping. We will not be helped by:<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />- Law schools<br clear="none" />- The Judiciary <br clear="none" />- The organized bar<br clear="none" />- Legislatures at any level<br clear="none" />- Most of our colleagues<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />None of these entities care much about helping lawyers in practice, including the legions of unemployed and under-employed new attorneys. Lawyers in their own practices all know that none of those entities actually help lawyers in practice. They mostly pay lip service to helping "the profession" and "the public".<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />The really sad thing is that encouraging limited scope representation would benefit vast numbers of middle and lower income citizens, whose need for legal services is grossly underserved. <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Large new players (notably LegalZoom and Avvo) have entered the market for these underserved citizens, using the disingenuous phrase "access to justice" to describe their offerings.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />There is undoubtedly a gap between legal needs and the perceived availability of legal services. Sometimes there is truly a gap between what is needed and what potential clients can actually afford. Purveyors like LegalZoom and Avvo attempt to commoditize various services, make them "affordable", and therefor appealing.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />What they are actually doing is "unbundling" various legal services and offering "limited scope representation". They are stepping in and filling the gap between what is needed and what is perceived to be available.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Can private lawyers offer AFFORDABLE legal services?<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />YES, but only IF they define what the different services are, make clear what they are going to do, and make the pricing for the various services CLEAR.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Doing or not doing this is a choice. Lawyers have traditionally and collectively decided not to do this. And so, we have this paradox: While the law schools and bar associations scratch their heads in wonder over the declining "job market", there is a HUGE demand for legal services of all kinds. This is an entrepreneurial opportunity that is lost on those who think law is about "jobs".<br />
Law practice presents great opportunities for the entrepreneurially minded. For "employee mentality" however...not so much.<br />
In many parts of the country, local bar associations are belatedly recognizing the potential benefits to the public in unbundled legal services. New York is woefully behind in this, though there was recently a barely publicized symposium about this. The only concrete action to come from this was support for government funded legal access programs and law school clinics like "lawyer for the day".<br />
When I suggest features of limited scope representation (document prep OR for appearing in Court on a one-time basis,) to experienced practitioners, they often express the fear that "once you file an appearance you are IN the case". I understand the fear. Would most Judges (or court clerks) permit an attorney to file a limited Notice of Appearance?<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Probably not, but any potential problems with this could be easily solved. The reason they would discourage it is the potential inconvenience to THEM. Yes, sometimes there will be a client who doesn't understand the limitations of such an appearance (as much as it might be clarified or explained or written). <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />The upside to clients and the courts would be massive. Legions of pro-se litigants (as exist in Housing Court, Family Court, Surrogate's Court, Civil Court and in immigration matters) are detrimental to litigants and the court system. <br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />I don't think it can be argued that clients do better when they are represented as opposed to pro-se. There is value in what lawyers can do in a court setting, both substantively and in the harder to quantify aspect of understanding and peace of mind.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Would clients pay a fair price for such value? I'd guess yes, and it is certainly going to be worth the effort to find out.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />I tend to advocate for practicing lawyers first. Hey - we have an interest in this too! Can there be value to lawyers in limited scope representation? YES, but only IF....<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />- We clearly and logically price our services.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />- We work efficiently.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />- We offer true value, presented with clarity and transparency.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />- We make our services known to the potential clients.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />In other States where unbundled legal services has been encouraged, an interesting thing happened....MANY times when a limited scope appearance didn't finish a matter, the client hired the attorney to complete the case.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />It's pretty clear why that happens: Client realize the actual value the attorney provides.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />We ought to recognize our real value too!<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-40246588354912696442016-02-15T14:10:00.000-05:002016-02-15T14:11:49.158-05:00What LegalZoom is Telling Us (Solo and Small Firm Attorneys)<div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #232629; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 18px; font-stretch: inherit; line-height: 32px; margin-bottom: 32px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">
Back in September I attended the fantastic Clio Cloud Conference in Chicago. I mention it because one of the keynote speakers was John Suh, the founder and CEO of LegalZoom.</div>
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When I noticed this, I approached someone I knew at Clio and said, “Really?!? You are having the LegalZoom guy speak to a group of practicing lawyers?”</div>
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His response was, essentially “Barry, you are not the only one asking about it. I suggest you keep an open mind and hear what he has to say. You may find it interesting.”</div>
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LegalZoom CEO John Suh told us that LegalZoom’s plan was/is on 3 levels. Most lawyers are familiar with level 1, where they provide legal forms for a certain segment of the potential client world. He repeatedly used the phrase “access to justice” to describe the problems facing the consumers LegalZoom is trying to serve. </div>
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His analysis goes as follows: For people in the top 1% of income, where money is no object, they can and do get top quality legal help. Then there is the bottom 15% of income, which LegalZoom wants nothing to do with (I guess these poor people should get their “legal services” from the government, or go unrepresented.) So much for “access to justice”.</div>
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Then there is the 84% of "middle income" people (16-99% of income), who he says don’t have “access to justice” because most lawyers are not prepared to provide this in an affordable way.</div>
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LegalZoom’s second level of service was/is to supplement their forms with the ability for their customers to call a lawyer at LegalZoom for help with the forms. Yes, sometimes the law involves more than filling out forms.</div>
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At the third level, and what LegalZoom is rolling out next, is a widespread pre-paid legal plan. They intend to have the largest and most expansive pre-paid legal plan in the history of civilization. I know this must be big because they advertise on my favorite show, Shark Tank. Under these plans the customers would be billed monthly and can then obtain legal advice from attorneys who participate in the plan. This will be a great thing for attorneys, Suh claimed, because it will create 20-30,000 new legal jobs.</div>
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He then continued that of course, for this to work, the legal services would have to be at the highest possible level, and the attorneys would have to be well vetted and subject to ongoing review by the customers. And if the attorneys don’t pass muster, before or during their involvement, they are out.</div>
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LegalZoom has "done studies" of attorneys and work quality and efficiency. Suh summarized his findings this way…</div>
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Big law firms are pretty efficient, with their attorneys working at 75% efficiency. That is, they spend 75% of their working hours doing actual legal work for clients. Their quality is good and they use technology relatively well.</div>
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The most efficient firms are those numbering between 10-20 lawyers (“boutique" firms), who spend 80% of their working hours doing actual legal work. Boutique firms are also more efficient because their lawyers tend to be “in their prime” (ie – no newbies and no dead wood older partners). These firms tend to use the newest technologies most efficiently.</div>
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The least efficient lawyers are the solos and small firms. According to Suh, they/we work at 40% efficiency. We spend only 40% of our time doing actual legal work for our clients. We often focus on several areas of law and are not at a high level on any particular one. And, we are behind on technology.</div>
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LegalZoom’s plan is to use boutique law firms for their pre-paid legal plans. The 20-30,000 new legal jobs are going there. They expect to pay the boutique firms well, in the realm of pre-paid legal, and for the firms to accept way less than their usual hourly in exchange for volume (and prompt payment) from LegalZoom. Will that work? Time will tell.</div>
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John Suh made it clear that this pre-paid legal opportunity, and the legal work and income related to it, will NOT be made available to solos and small firms. He said solos could not stand up to the vetting and review process. He said we would not be able to serve the pre-paid legal clients well because we could not be counted on to be there, and to follow up, and to work efficiently.</div>
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He said it. I was there. There was a gasp in the room....though maybe it was just me.</div>
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At first I couldn’t pinpoint what was so upsetting about this. But then it struck me…</div>
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HE IS RIGHT!!! But also very wrong.</div>
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He is right that….solos are not as efficient in our work because we spend time on marketing, and billing, and collections, and evaluating new matters, and personnel issues, and all the other things that comprise being in practice.</div>
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He is right that….we sometimes venture outside our best practice areas.</div>
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He is right that….we are not all/always on the cutting edge of technology.</div>
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He is right that….it would be difficult to guarantee all-day availability for calls from pre-paid legal clients at a reduced hourly rate.</div>
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But he is WRONG (and disingenuous) when he talks about an access to justice problem for middle class people. </div>
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He is WRONG to throw a blanket over the 16-99% income levels, as if people across the entire income spectrum have the same legal needs and the same issues about access to legal services.</div>
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He is WRONG if he thinks good clients want to commoditize legal service and get it through a monthly plan. Good clients don’t want that…they want their own lawyer, who they can talk to about the specific matter, and who knows them well enough to offer contextual advice. </div>
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I don’t know if he thinks small firms and solos are destined to remain inefficient, and unknown to the many clients who should be able to find them. But if he thinks this, he is WRONG. </div>
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This is NOT an "access to justice" problem. It is a disconnect between the clients' actual needs (quality, affordable legal services) and our ability to provide this AND make the value of our services known to the optimal clients.</div>
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WE (solos and small firm lawyers) should be serving this market WAY better. We are uniquely qualified to do this IF/WHEN we up our game. Our fees should be commensurate with real value, that clients can see and understand (and appreciate). Clients want and deserve personalized legal services.</div>
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Good lawyers want good clients, and this means way more than "people who can pay". Good clients realize that legal service is not a commodity, that there is more to quality than cost. They understand that legal issues exist in a larger context. They understand that when a valuable service is being provided, reasonable and appropriate fees will be charged. Good clients appreciate the value that a good attorney brings to a situation.</div>
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As a solo lawyer, I never minded that LegalZoom was doing the forms and advice thing. One simple reason for this….I didn't want these DIYers as clients anyway. Ironically, sometimes they end up being clients on larger matters, after the DIY documents, done on the cheap, blow up on them. Even then, they still are generally not great clients.</div>
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I don’t think most legal issues can be resolved with some “access to justice” in the form of a consultation with a lawyer on a pre-paid legal plan.</div>
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I don’t think quality clients want their lawyer through a pre-paid legal plan. But they want their lawyer to be great, and responsive, and transparent, and to charge fairly. Can we solos and small firm lawyers honestly say we are doing this? If we are not, we better improve. </div>
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We then have a bigger challenge: Making sure our best potential clients know what we offer and how they can work with us.</div>
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With cudos to Jim Ignatowski, who gave me inspiration in a memorable Taxi episode, I will say the following.....</div>
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We solo and small firm lawyers will address these issues by making the value of our services known to clients who want and need us........OR FAIL TO DO SO!!!!</div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-57227264263168286602015-12-16T18:18:00.000-05:002015-12-16T18:26:04.470-05:00Cone of SilenceI'm proud to say that sometimes I resort to unusual methods to solve a problem.<br />
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Recently I had two people in my office who were involved in a difficult estate situation. They were united in interest, to a degree. They were two of five adult children who had inheritance rights. The guy was the Executor and a one fifth beneficiary. The woman was his youngest sister, also a one fifth beneficiary, who was living in the late mom's house.<br />
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I knew the Executor was under a lot of pressure from the other siblings to "get her out of the house and sell it". They weren't wrong, but he had never been firm with his baby sister. <br />
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When they came in she seemed quite comfortable with the situation as it was, and thought we were there to discuss how we (she, brother and I) would deal with the others.<br />
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I didn't like thinking that brother wanted me to do what he should have done, but I could understand his reluctance. His sister was fragile and he cared about her more than the sibs cared about her. He knew he should have been clear with her before, but he hadn't done it. <br />
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It's kind of stupid to have a meeting where the most important issue is not discussed. I tried to get him to say what needed to be said, but he wouldn't (or couldn't) do it.<br />
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After awhile I said to them "You know, this may be a situation where I want to use the Cone of Silence, do you know what that is?" They did. She said "It's that thing Maxwell Smart wanted to always do when he talked the The Chief". Yup. If you're not familiar, here's a Youtube link <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsNR9FnxOdY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsNR9FnxOdY</a>.<br />
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I said to her "What I always found funny about the Cone of Silence is it doesn't really work because other people can hear, but Maxwell Smart felt he could talk openly in there. If we use the Cone of Silence, I will speak openly about some important things. Are you OK with that?"<br />
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"Sure"<br />
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"OK" I said. I am activating the Cone....and I made some mechanical sounds and some hand motions to indicate we were in the Cone of Silence.<br />
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I then looked her in the eye and said "Now that we are in the Cone of Silence what I want to say is this....While your brother does not like the way the others are acting, he very much wants you to leave the house. He doesn't want to have to evict you, and he has been praying that you don't force him to do that."<br />
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Then I stopped, slowly raised my hands to indicate that the Cone of Silence was lifted, and said <br />
"The Cone of Silence is off now."<br />
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He was crying.<br />
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She finally understood.Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-65740242620113148102015-08-26T16:12:00.000-04:002015-08-26T16:12:28.130-04:00It Took Me 33 Years to Realize (and Accept)....That clients are very often people who have "problems".<br />
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Now, you might say "What kind of idiot are you that it took you 33 years to figure that out?"<br />
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I always knew problems were the driving force bringing people to my office and perhaps into Court. If there weren't legal problems there wouldn't be much business.<br />
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What it took me time to realize (and even longer to accept) is that the genesis of many problems are the personality problems of someone in the case (often the client but not always).<br />
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What kinds of "personality" problems generate a lot of legal problems? Let me count the ways....<br />
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- Narcissism - people who only care about themselves and cannot see things from any other point of view. <br />
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- Closely related (and very dangerous) are sociopaths. I've been involved with a few of these. Their personality disorder tends to get them involved in legal matters. In lay terms we can call them evil and manipulative. The first time I realized I was involved with someone like this I did some research. The best and only advice I found was "undo your involvement with such people". Thanks. I'll remember that....next time.<br />
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- Immorality - Many people's moral compass consists of what they can get away with. Maybe I was naïve but I used to assume people knew right from wrong. Now I assume they don't and hope to be surprised.<br />
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- Inability to communicate. Some people have no trouble communicating to me what the facts and issues are.. But they are often not able to communicate in a meaningful way with the other parties. Often the adversary has the communication issue, but many times I have wondered whether a little more effort by my client might have enabled an early resolution. I used to ask whether my prospective client had tried to "have a cup of coffee" with the other side, but 1,187 times in a row the answer was "no" so I don't ask this any more.<br />
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- Stupidity and/or lack of sophistication. With intelligent clients we can explain the issues, and the inter-related possible paths things could follow, depending on....whatever. Sometimes though, you can lay this all out and the client asks "So, do you think we will win?"<br />
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- Pathological abhorrence of paying for anything (especially legal services). There is no fancy name for this, but maybe there should be.<br />
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In practice, we spend most of our time dealing with our clients and their cases. Their personalities and proclivities are part of our life. Spending our time and interacting with narcissists, sociopaths, greed, immorality, stupidity, cheapness, and personality flaws in general, can be draining. It can make you hate what you do. Pretty sad, but don't we all know people like that? Haven't we all felt that way? We are destined to repeat these unhappy experiences.....<br />
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UNLESS - we are willing to leave judgments behind and ACCEPT that if we accept these clients and their matters, we may as well accept them as they are. Maybe even appreciate them.<br />
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Accepting their matters, or rejecting them, is OUR CHOICE. <br />
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At a certain point I chose to reject certain cases and certain types of clients, or even cases where one of the adversaries was a certain way. I am entitled to make that choice. So are you.<br />
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Sometimes our greatest strengths (being compassionate and understanding and smart) turn out to be our undoing. We end up trying to fix the people rather than solve the legal problem. We end up trying to help in ways that cannot work. It's a formula for failure regarding the results, but more important, it's a formula for our own unhappiness.<br />
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If you choose to not be involved, be clear and know you are protecting yourself.<br />
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If you choose to be involved, accept who you are involved with, and work with who they are, instead of getting angry that they are not who you would prefer them to be.<br />
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-76803276896740911762015-07-15T17:32:00.003-04:002015-07-15T17:33:38.263-04:00Your Best Friend<span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 107%;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Law practice
is a business.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Make no mistake, it is a
TOUGH business.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This doesn’t mean you
have to be an insensitive lout to succeed, but you should to be AWARE of many
things, such as…<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The clients are not your friends.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">You can like them, you can care about them, you can empathize, you can
feel their pain, and you can put your guts on the line for them, but they are
not your friends.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The clients may even
like you, but you are not their friend.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>They want you to be a professional who works on their behalf. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They have a right to have expectations, and you
have a right to look out for yourself.<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">You have a right to be treated with respect, to be told the truth, and
to be paid in accordance with your fee agreement.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Sometimes these things don’t happen, and you
have to look out for yourself.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>How?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>By being clear and direct when there are
issues between you and the client that need to be addressed.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Clients often cannot address these issues
with clarity and directness, nor should they be expected to, because they are
your client, not your friend. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You are
the professional, you have to be clear and direct.<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The Court system and the Judges are not your friends.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can and should respect them but you
should know where they (and you) are in the scheme of things.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When you interact with them, you are in a business
that requires you to serve your clients, and look out for yourself.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Who are the Judges and people in the Court
system?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Are they in a business, like
you?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Hardly. They are civil servants on
a fixed salary.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There, I said it! </span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">When you make work for them they don’t like you.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They MIGHT care about people like your
clients, but they might not.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They don’t
want to take sides or ever be perceived as doing so.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>SO, unless and until you put something in
their face that forces them to care, they don’t care.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Often, they “care” only to the extent you have
made them have to work.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This is often a
big shock to clients, who think that when a case gets filed in the Court
system, “the Judge” knows about it (they usually don’t), and that upon the
initial filing they are interested (they aren’t), and that the Judge will
somehow become “pro-active” based on seeing the merits of your client’s
position (which almost never happens).</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">In reality Judges want the cases to be resolved without having to actually
decide them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When cases are being
discussed in Court, the Judges and court personnel routinely refer to settled
cases as “going away”.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As in “what would
it take to make this go away?”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Clients
don’t know that the Court talks about the cases this way, but they do.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The Judges and Court system are not your friends.<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Your adversaries are not your friends.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Sometimes a little dance happens in contested civil matters.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You need to negotiate on behalf of your
client, with your adversary who is acting on behalf of his client, and lo and
behold, you get along with your adversary.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I’ve become friendly with many lawyers who I first met as adversaries on
a case.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It makes sense….I have more in
common with them than most people I would meet.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>The thing is, when you are involved in a case with them, they are not
your friend.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>(Paradoxically, sometimes
your attorney adversary is indirectly your client’s best friend, because they
are the only person who can convince your client’s adversary to do what is
right)<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">In practice, while being aware of who your friends are (and aren’t), you
have to continually do the three things that comprise a law practice (or any
business):<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Get new work<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Do the work<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Deal with the money.<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Friendship has NO ROLE in any of these items, the essential elements of
your practice.<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Here’s what many of us do.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We
are friendly, because it’s EASY and we are NICE.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">But if that causes you to not be attentive to getting new work, or
doing existing work, or getting paid…<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Then you are being awfully unfriendly to the person who should be your
best friend…<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">YOURSELF<o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 107%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">P.S.. – You can and should be friendly to
yourself, and friendly to others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You
can even act friendly and with compassion towards people who you realize are “not
your friends”.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Just remember to care
about you.</span></div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-70422853827161322232015-06-10T17:18:00.000-04:002015-06-10T17:18:34.777-04:00Law Practice (and other business) FundamentalsDue to deep seated psychological reasons, which years of therapy have not remotely addressed, I always believed I could not draw, paint, or do anything remotely "artistic". It's got something to do with my mother being an artist, and worrying too much about what other people would think about my artistic efforts. And yes, Dr. Freud, I know I married an artist, just to keep you amused.<br />
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However......once, in preparation for giving a talk on "Building a Law Practice", I made a little illustration. This is the only known work of its kind, created by my very hand.....<br />
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If I do not explain the meaning of this relic, I fear it may be later discovered and subject to mis-interpretation. The drawing is called "Law Practice Fundamentals". A law practice, or ANY business, is based on THREE basic things:<br />
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3. Managing the finances.</div>
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If a law practice (or ANY business) is having "problems", the source is often one (or more) of these issues. All these issues can be addressed and improvements can be made. This is a matter of clear thought, action, assessment, and adjustments. All the things we all know and sometimes even do.<br />
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The BIG challenge is to work all three elements simultaneously.<br />
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Most new law practices consider themselves initially challenged with Item #1. I maintain this is easily overcome, and once business is brought in, the challenges of #'s 2&3 will present themselves. Of course, once we are working really hard (probably too hard because we half didn't expect to succeed at #1), the inclination is to stop getting new business and/or lose track of financial issues. After all, we are SO busy, so things must be OK.<br />
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Then, after we do all that work but the bottom line doesn't measure up, we focus on that. And fall behind on the actual work, and of course, still no time to go back to #1. <br />
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So then, we work on #3 and chase down some money, but we have no new business, and so we begin the treadmill again.<br />
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Try not to do this. Or shall I say....DON'T DO THIS!!!!<br />
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These things are all related and inter-related. <br />
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When you market and network, have systems in place to handle the work efficiently. <br />
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Make good decisions on which matters to take (and reject) and think about the fees and billings and collections at the outset. Money problems generally arise out of defects in #'s 1 & 2. (We market for or accept unprofitable matters or we work inefficiently)<br />
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Law practice (or any business) requires seeing all 3 elements, and addressing them consistently.</div>
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-48850856050914652692015-03-11T15:43:00.002-04:002015-03-11T15:43:52.152-04:00Probate Complexities: Part 1<span style="font-size: large;">In the last post I set forth what an ideal (easy) probate would look like, noting that varying a few factors can add serious complexity. Here are a few variations and how they play out:</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">- A Will that is not attorney prepared and/or supervised. These can be harder to probate because of certain legal presumptions. When a Will signing is supervised by an attorney, the legal presumption is that the execution was properly done. This can be overcome, but the burden is on the potential objectants. It is a heavy burden. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">On the flip side, if the Will signing was not attorney supervised, the burden is on the Will proponents to show proper execution. This is a heavy (and dangerous) burden. It means the witnesses have to state that the necessary formalities took place (that the Testator declared or indicated the document was his will, asked them to be witnesses, that they saw the Testator sign, etc).</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Nobody can actually remember this stuff. When an attorney supervises a Will, all he has to remember is what his ceremony is, that he/she always follows it, and there was nothing in this Will to indicate any deviation.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Sometimes when people are in Court with home-made or Legal Zoom wills, where possible objectants were cut out, they really regret not using an attorney to do the Will. They now have a burden they would not have had if they had used an attorney.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">To be clear on this....the above refers to the actual Will execution. Other grounds that someone might have to object could still be pursued. That being said, it is really dumb to run across "due execution" issues, when they could have been easily avoided.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">2. Two witnesses and a witness Affidavit. The law in NY is TWO witnesses. Not one. Not one plus someone who is also a beneficiary. Also, the witnesses can (and SHOULD) sign a separate witness affidavit right after they witness the Will. This essentially says they were there, they signed, and everything that was supposed to be done, was done. It saves everyone from having to locate the witnesses years later. It also saves the problems that arise when it turns out later the witnesses have died, or are incompetent, or you can't locate them.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">This stuff applies mostly to attorney drawn wills but surprisingly, sometimes attorneys don't do this step. Very bad. Very inconsiderate to the people trying to probate the Will later.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">3. We only have a copy of the Will, not the original. This can be a BIG problem. You can try to probate a copy, but you have big hurdles and some nasty presumptions to overcome. There must be testimony regarding what happened to the original. And, if the testimony is that the Will was last in the possession of the Testator (the person making the Will) the PRESUMPTION IS HE REVOKED IT!!! You can probate a copy if the testimony is that the lawyer had it and lost it, or the Executor had it and lost it, but the Surrogate has to be satisfied that the testimony is credible. Probating a copy is very high pressure and stressful because many things can go wrong. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">This is why it is VERY important when counseling clients who do wills, to be careful about where the original will be. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Last point on this topic - sometimes the safest thing to do with an original will is to file it with Surrogates Court while the person is still alive. It costs $45 to do this, and may be worth the peace of mind of not having to worry about this issue.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Next post - More probate complexities.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"></span>Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-68170977861181400802015-03-01T16:27:00.000-05:002015-03-01T16:27:41.522-05:00Probate "Complexities"<span style="font-size: large;">To understand things that would add complexity to probating a Will, it is useful to look at what an ideal (and easy) probate looks like. The complicated situations occur when one or more of these simplifying factors are missing, or when some troubling variation is in play.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">In an ideal situation, we have the following:</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">- An attorney prepared and supervised Will.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- Two witnesses have signed the Will, and also signed a Witness Affidavit.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- We have an original Will, not a photocopy.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- There are no corrections, deletions or alterations on the Will.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- The staples have not been removed.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- We know who the distributees (people who would inherit if there were no will) are, and we know where they are. AND, even better, they will sign a Waiver.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- We have a Will that names an Executor and that person is alive, willing to serve, and doesn't have anything about them that would prevent them from serving.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- The Will doesn't do anything that would tick off an interested party.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- The terms of the Will are clear and easy to understand.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- The person's non-probate assets (i.e. - accounts with beneficiaries, life insurance policies or jointly held real estate) are distributed consistently with the apparent intention of the Will.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- There isn't a spouse being cut out in the Will (thus triggering a right of election).</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- The death certificate lists an address in the County you think it should.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- There aren't big creditor claims, or Medicaid liens, or open taxes (or years of unfiled taxes when they should have been filed)</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- We know what the assets are and where they are....and nobody has been plundering them with a power of attorney.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">- The person did their Will a few years ago (as opposed to a few days, or hours, before they died)</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Contrary to what many people think, most Wills fit the profile above. Things need to be done, and they can be easily done.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Of course, there are many situations where one or more of the above complexities are in play. They can all be addressed, but they take some know-how, some expense, and some time. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">These issues are precisely the reason why I cannot answer the question "How much do you charge to probate a Will?" I answer that question AFTER I know about the existence, and extent, of the complexities. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Next post - How do we deal with some specific complexities?</span>Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-28829161608823686422015-02-16T15:07:00.003-05:002015-02-16T15:40:25.930-05:00Probate - The Non-Dirty WordThe word "probate" is often tossed around as something to be avoided. As if the failure to avoid it were a mark of stupidity, or symbolized a lack of care or planning. <br />
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On some level if a person does extensive planning, and has ALL their assets with named beneficiaries, or if a person creates a trust (AND takes the additional step of transferring ALL their assets to the trust), probate can be avoided.</div>
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What is probate, actually?</div>
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In New York, probate means that a Will has been recognized by the Surrogates Court as proper. The end result is that somebody (usually the person named as Executor in the Will) receives a document from the Court called "Letters Testamentary". That is the Executor's proof that he/she has authority to act on behalf of the Estate.</div>
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If you are named as an Executor in a Will, and you have the original Will and a death certificate, can you go into a bank and close out a deceased persons account? Nope. The bank will tell you to come back with Letters Testamentary. What they are really saying is "get the will probated".</div>
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"There is no end to the creativity and deviousness of some people when it comes to not doing what is proper, ethical, moral and legal. The court proceedings are designed to protect the wishes of the person who made the Will, as well as to protect those who the decedent intended to inherit. Related to that is <u>sometimes</u> it's just not clear that the "Will" in question is actually what the person wanted. The procedures are designed to make sure the people affected by the Will are notified and that they have an opportunity to be heard (if there is some issue worth hearing)" </div>
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Since there is no way for the Court to know in advance whether a particular Will has "issues", all Wills have to follow the procedures. That being said, VERY often you can identify the interested parties, they can all sign a "Waiver and Consent", and the Will can be admitted to probate (and Letters Testamentary issued) pretty quickly.</div>
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Does it take some legal knowledge and time and experience to probate a Will? Sure, but in friendly situations (which is often the case) the fees should not be onerous. If they are, call a different lawyer. Can the fees become substantial if there are issues with a Will? Certainly, but we lawyers didn't create a system to encourage that. Personally, I'd rather earn modest fees in friendly situations, as opposed to bigger fees from dysfunctional family feud cases. But hey, we can only play the hands we are dealt.</div>
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Probate is not a dirty word. It's a necessary proceeding so that a Will can be carried out. Next post, issues that can arise which may add complexity.</div>
Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-53719597926353615262015-01-20T18:28:00.002-05:002015-01-21T07:53:34.058-05:00More "Little Things" That Affect ProbateThe more one practices in a particular area, the more "little things" one encounters. Some of them hardly ever happen, but surprisingly, some are quite common. All these little things affect how the case proceeds, how much work the attorneys have to do, and how long the matter may take. Here are just a few "little things"....<br />
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1. Sometimes a person has a right to inherit, but before they receive their inheritance, they die. We call these persons "post-deceased". A post-deceased person does not lose their rights, their estate has whatever rights they would have had. In Surrogates Court, an "estate within an Estate" is quite common.<br />
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2. What if the post-deceased person didn't have a right to inherit, but had a right to be notified of a proceeding? Same result as above, their estate must be notified. Sometimes this can really delay things, as one Estate tries to get jurisdiction over another Estate. Very frustrating.<br />
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3. A person cannot serve as a fiduciary if they were ever convicted of a felony. I once found out my client was a felon after I had gotten him appointed. While I was deciding whether I was ethically obliged to report this (once I learned of it), the Court found out from someone else and revoked his appointment. I was called in and asked about it, so I had to testify about what I knew and when. Not pleasant, and fortunately no repercussions, but a lesson learned. Now I always ask. Even little old ladies, and once, an old lady admitted that she had done time in Alabama 40 years ago. I told her I was sorry, but I could not file a probate petition for her.<br />
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4. What if someone was a convicted felon but has a "waiver of civil disability" from a court? I once had this situation, where my client was opposing the person being appointed. In such a situation it is discretionary, and the Judge appointed this low life (my opinion). Now we will end up fighting during an accounting proceeding because this person has acted quite badly. <br />
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5. What if inheritance rights depend on establishing paternity? I've been involved in quite a few of these. There are statutes and developing caselaw on the the use of DNA in posthumous paternity cases. Complicated stuff but very interesting. <br />
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The thing about probate and estate administration is, after a person dies, the money and the stuff have to go SOMEWHERE. Figuring it all out, especially when people do not agree, takes an entire specialized court, a whole set of rules, and many lawyers who know about these things at various levels of expertise.<br />
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Most of the time things are clear, and the practice is essentially administrative. But other times, mind bending complexity comes into play. When it does, it's nice to know a lot of little things.<br />
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<br />Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-33222817392639480272014-12-22T17:36:00.000-05:002014-12-22T17:36:49.459-05:0010 Year End Law Practice ObservationsAs the year ends we often reflect on the state of our practice. When we do this, we are really looking at three things:<div>
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Here are 10 observations gleaned from opening my own practice right out of law school, and still going at it 32 years later: </div>
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1. Clients are in your office because they need help solving a problem. Thus, by its very nature, law practice involves dealing with people who have problems (on many and various levels). If you don't like this, things will be rough. (Note - it took me a long time to figure this one out)</div>
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2. To do lists are OK. Way better is a prioritized list where item #1 gets finished.</div>
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3. Making good referrals is a win-win-win (for you, the referred attorney, and the client). Commit to making more excellent referrals.</div>
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4. If you have matters where you should be billing, BILL and follow up. Not everyone has a problem with this, but some do. If this is you, commit to improving.</div>
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5. If you have a list of things you SHOULD do, notice how often you say this and how you are short-changing yourself. If you say you should have a better website, or a blog, or a practice management program, start DOING IT!! Related to this is: If you need help, get help.</div>
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6. If you have cases where you know you should end your involvement, take action.</div>
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7. Recognize that even if you made some bad decisions last year, you made a lot of good ones. A collective pat on the back is in order.</div>
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8. While you are waiting for you career to get going, in reality it is already happening. </div>
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9. Knowing that you can refine how you define (yourself) is very empowering.</div>
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Happy holidays and New Year to all!!!</div>
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-32225463186439634412014-11-29T17:44:00.000-05:002014-12-01T07:59:43.640-05:00Important "Little Things" That Affect ProbateWhen we "probate" a Will, we are having the Court recognize it as official and proper. The Court then grants "Letters Testamentary" to the Executor, so they have authority to act.<br />
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When starting out with a probate proceeding, there are certain things to determine right off the bat. These are important because they determines how simple or easy your proceeding is going to be. <br />
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1. Does the Executor have the ORIGINAL Will. This is very important, and quite frequently clients come in and all they have is a copy. Copies can be probated, but it is much harder. When the client doesn't have the original, serious efforts must be made to locate the original. Some of the places I suggest the clients look are:<br />
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- Safe deposit box. If the decedent has one, very often the Will is in there. Getting it out after the person has died takes some legal work.<br />
- With the drafting attorney. I don't generally hold original Wills, but many attorneys do. I suppose it increases their chances of getting the probate. Anyway, sometimes we have to extract the Will from the drafting attorneys, and sometimes it's a royal pain. What if they died? Moved? Lost it?<br />
- On file with the Court. Many lawyers don't know a Will can be filed while a person is alive. I've done this a few times, usually when I am concerned that an angry relative might get access to the decedent's Will and destroy it. <br />
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2. Did the witnesses execute a "witness affidavit"? A will does not have to be notarized. The legal requirement is that it be "signed in front of two witnesses". However, best practice for will execution is to have the Will signed in front of two witnesses and then have the witnesses sign an Affidavit, attesting that everything was done that needed to be done. When this Affidavit is with the Will, you don't have to locate and contact the witnesses. When the Will doesn't have the witness affidavit, and you want to probate, you have to find the witnesses and get them to sign an Affidavit. What if their signature is illegible? What if they died? Moved? Don't remember anything? I've encountered all of these. Generally the problems can be solved, but it's much more work!<br />
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3. Can we identify and locate the "distributees". These are the people who would inherit under intestacy. In a probate proceeding you have to get jurisdiction over them, as they are the only people with standing to contest the Will. It's difficult when you (or the client) don't know who they are and/or where they are. Also, sometimes these people present other problems.....dead, missing, mentally incompetent, incarcerated, questionable paternity, etc. A drafting attorney should obtain this information, and press for it even if the Testator doesn't want to give it. This saves a ton of trouble and expense later. When analyzing a new probate, the first and most important issue is always "what will be involved in getting jurisdiction?"<br />
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Sometimes potential probate clients ask "How much will it cost to probate a Will?" I would not offer a quote without at least inquiring about the these important "little things".Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-44925270527306749602014-11-23T21:24:00.002-05:002014-11-24T08:10:45.450-05:0010 Things Many Lawyers Don't Know About Surrogates Court in New York<div>
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10. First cousins can inherit under intestacy, but generally they can't become fiduciaries. In "cousin cases", the Public Administrator is the fiduciary. These Estates ultimately become "kinship cases". This is a fascinating specialty within Surrogates Court practice.</div>
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Sometimes Surrogates Court seems like it's own little world. It has many unique rules and procedures. All of these are designed to ensure fairness and prevent premature or improper distributions. Once one gets the hang of it, it starts to make sense. Most of the time, anyway.</div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-1139021950616163242014-11-09T10:51:00.000-05:002014-11-12T07:30:10.499-05:00Bad is BadLaw "jobs" may be scarce, but for the entrepreneurial, there is plenty of law business out there. The skill that separates the successes from the strugglers, is recognizing and getting GOOD business, while simultaneously knowing and avoiding BAD business. Growing a healthy law practice starts with hearing clients' stories, and making business decisions on whether they and their story are profitable business.<br />
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1. The time spent on bad business takes away from two important things: good business and personal time. You can make up for bad business with good business, but only if you expand into personal time. Very unhealthy.</div>
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2. Bad business saps your energy. Squeaky wheels get your grease, and that is the essence of bad business. Squeaking clients, making a noise you can’t escape and have to attend to. So you grease it, and talk to it, and e-mail and meet with it. You travel to court for it and with it. Still, it squeaks. You grease it enough, it starts to quiet down and move along. Eventually, you and the squeak get to your destination, the case ends, and then you realize the third reason bad business is so bad.</div>
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3. You lost money. All that squeaking, all that time, your time, and maybe you made $10 an hour. It happens, and if you don’t pay attention, it can happen a lot. And, sometimes bad business gets quiet and slinks away without paying, or makes you chase the fees. </div>
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4. Bad business produces bad karma. When you are a solo lawyer, your clients and their cases are your life (We'd all like to deny this, but it's true). When you have cases, you always have a certain “mix”. I realized this one day while talking to another solo. We were having a “can you top this” of problems, commiserating in our misery, when he asked, “Why are you so down today"? Without hesitating I answered “Bad mix right now”. He knew just what I meant and said, “Yeah, that’s a bad thing”. Since then, we start our calls with “How’s the mix today?”</div>
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5. A bad mix, that you don't fix, makes you hate your practice. And if your practice is YOU, well, consider where that leads.</div>
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a. Residential real estate closings: Very often these have low flat fees with no control over your time; plus clients who are generally not business people, suddenly under intense pressure. </div>
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b. Accident cases with minor injuries: You end up working your tail off, spending your own money, and the insurance company fights you. Now, it is true that every so often you hit a home run with an accident case. But sometimes there are no home runs in the mix, just squeaking. I'd also add that, relative to time spent, the most profitable cases in the history of my practice were cases I referred out (and ethically participated in the fees)!</div>
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c. Landlord-tenant cases: Unless you do a lot of them, so it would make sense to hang around in Housing Court all day. Hanging around in Housing Court on one case is bad business.</div>
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d. Debt collection cases: a percentage of nothing is nothing. Never forget this. Yeah, you can collect once in awhile, but on all the ones where you get nothing, you never get back your time.</div>
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e. Purchase and sale of a small business: Unless you are really tough, and a super smart businessperson, and ruthless, and heartless. As a young attorney, you find out right away, that compared to other small business owners, you are a wimp. A nothing. You may be able to do the papers for the deal, but you don’t even know what the deals are really about. I’m not talking about corporate mergers here. I’m talking about representing someone buying a coffee shop. These transactions are WAY more complicated and difficult than you could imagine. </div>
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f. Any kind of case you don't know how to do really well, and that you don't have a lot of.</div>
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There are rationales and rationalizations for taking bad business. I have heard (and acted upon) all of them:</div>
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If you think these thoughts, and it's natural to do so, at some point you will recognize the many flaws. Hopefully this happens sooner rather than later. </div>
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It's easy to market for, and get, tons of bad business. Of course, if you get enough bad business, bad becomes good, you become the specialist, and you are the bad business go-to person. This can and does happen, and on many levels can be an excellent result of learning the lessons of bad business.</div>
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Bottom line: bad is bad, but bad can become good. If you don't know bad when you are in it, bad is VERY bad. If you can figure out what good is right away, skip all this bad stuff, and go for good from the git-go. </div>
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-27373027378999850842014-11-02T13:29:00.001-05:002014-11-04T07:42:14.844-05:00Venue, Venue, VenueIn real estate they say "location location location". Of course, it's also true for the venue of our cases and clients. When you make the decision to take a matter or not, you must consider the venue. Not just the court where a litigated matter would be, but the "venue" of clients and other players.<br />
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Where I am in Queens County, New York, there are 8 counties in some proximity to my office: The 5 boros of NYC, plus Nassau, Suffolk & Westchester Counties). Outside of Queens, all these present SOME level of inconvenience for me. Actually, I've had cases in Rockland and Putnam Counties too, which will now go into the "lesson learned" category. </div>
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When a new matter is being discussed, I've learned to consider WHERE will the action take place. If there is possible litigation, we all think of this from the outset.....as plaintiff I must think "where will I venue the case?", as a potential defendant, I consider "Where will plaintiff venue it, and why?"</div>
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You should consider that non-litigated matters have a "venue" too. Will there be meetings with clients and counsel? WHERE will they be? Here's a reality, if I have to attend meetings in Brooklyn or Manhattan during the day, add two hours (Staten Island or Suffolk County, add three hours). If it's not the kind of case or client where you KNOW you will be truly compensated for your time (and be HONEST with yourself), factor this in when deciding whether to get involved. Is it the kind of client who will need to be in your office more than once during the matter? If they have to commute an hour each time, how long will it be until they resent that? If you have to go to them, will they pay for your time? If they don't, how will that be for YOU?</div>
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You MIGHT be better off referring such matters to someone local. At the very least it merits consideration. This is especially true with clients who can barely afford proper legal services to begin with. The travel and inconvenience of this type of situation can turn brutal pretty quickly. You are generally better off gaining the value of making a well considered referral. </div>
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On litigated matters, will your adversary have "home court advantage"? Don't overlook this, and it's not just because they know the Judges and Clerks and customs of the home court. A simple status conference with the court, where your adversary is there anyway because ALL his cases are there, is a big waste for you.</div>
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How much more confident do you feel when you are in YOUR home court (and your adversary is traveling)? I know that the case is still the case, and I think they generally turn out the way they should, BUT we are talking about BUSINESS, and profits, and convenience, and lifestyle. I have referred cases to "local counsel", even if its in Manhattan or Brooklyn or Nassau counties (all contiguous to Queens), for business reasons. I also have cases referred TO me because of my Queens presence. There are sound business reasons for this.</div>
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Bottom line: VENUE is a bottom line issue.<br />
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Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-79332030535924169402014-10-22T19:27:00.000-04:002014-10-22T19:30:24.992-04:00Refine How You DefineHow many opportunities do we have to answer the question "What do you do?"<br />
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The answer can say a lot to the questioner, in both content and tone, but it should also say a lot to YOU. </div>
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Do you notice how you answer the question? </div>
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Do you use vague generalities? "I am in general practice.....I do a lot of different things.....I work for a small firm......". </div>
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Do you give a self-deprecating answer? How would you view someone who defined themselves as doing something they hated? </div>
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Are you enthusiastic? Could you be? About something that you do?</div>
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Here are some basic suggestions:</div>
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1. OBSERVE how you answer that question.</div>
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2. THINK about what it indicates: (a) to the questioner, and (b) to yourself.</div>
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3. Experiment with some different ways to answer, first by thinking of some, and then trying them out when asked (btw, you will be amazed how many opportunities you have to answer the question). Then, follow the above.....observe your response, and THINK about what it indicates to the hearer and to yourself.</div>
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4. Keep refining how you define, it will move you in the right direction. </div>
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You will also notice that specificity, and saying that you focus on SOMETHING(s) improves your approach to practice, and results in new, QUALITY business........</div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-80840199326999924952014-10-05T21:50:00.001-04:002014-10-05T22:01:01.325-04:00Throw Back the Little OnesLaw practice, like any small business, forces you to think about where you've been, where you are, and where you're going. I do this more as I get older, realizing there is not an infinite time frame to get it right.<br />
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Today I was thinking about what I want to do, but it's so hard to stay focused on THAT. My learned thought patterns kept taking me back, thinking about what I've done. After a bit of that, it was a look at what I'm doing now. Much of that are things I really don't want to do any more. I have some ideas, and have had them for quite some time. Have you ever felt that way? How can the bigger ideas get going?</div>
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I DID figure out that I want to be working on things that excite me, BIG projects and bold business ideas. I've had some of these kicking around for years, and they haven't been done. Why? WHY?? One reason is working on a high volume of small stuff, rationalized under the heading of "having to make a living". Would I be making a better living if I were working on bigger and better things? If I made a decision to go after them? If I did not "keep busy" with the small stuff?</div>
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As I pondered this, FISHING came to mind. If I were fishing for bigger fish but had my lines full of smaller fish, what would I do with the smaller fish? Give them to someone else, or....THROW THEM BACK. Naturally, this made me think of the Steely Dan song "Throw Back the Little Ones". It's an obscure one, but I always really liked it. Here's a link....with lyrics. Give it a listen and let me know if you like it. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3RYtxUKow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3RYtxUKow</a></div>
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If you are fishing, and you don't throw back the little ones, and you keep bringing them on board, do you know what happens? Your whole ship smells like mackerel!!!</div>
Barry Seidel Law Practice Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07688824296558463061noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4539769458312674403.post-40943150876686523092013-11-16T15:16:00.000-05:002013-11-16T15:21:32.219-05:00Specialize in Something(s)<br />
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Generally speaking, the most successful lawyers (by any measure: financial, personal satisfaction, recognition) are the specialists. I am qualified to say this, having learned the lessons of the somewhat misguided generalist over many years. (note/disclaimer - In New York, lawyers can't call themselves "specialists", and I am NOT suggesting that anyone hold themselves out to the public as a "specialist". I am of course referring to lawyers who "focus" on particular practice areas. For our purposes I will refer to "specialists" because it reads better than "focusers" or "concentrators") Here are some observations about specialists:</div>
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1. They know their stuff. Generalists know their stuff too, up to a point, but on more substantial cases they are soon "out of their element". It's an uncomfortable feeling, and nearly impossible to explain (or justify) to a client.</div>
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2. They get paid more.....and bill with confidence, as they should. Without question, they are giving their clients value.</div>
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3. They usually find their chosen field interesting and exciting. When I was a confirmed generalist, I proudly found all areas of law interesting, to talk and think about, and to strategize about, but to actually DO.....not so much fun. Haven't we all, as generalists, had the experience of calling someone who "really knew" about a particular area of law? At some point I realized it would be better to be receiving those calls rather than making them. </div>
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4. They have systems geared for their specialty......generalists (hopefully) have general, all purpose systems, that work....to a point....but within a specialized field are grossly inefficient by comparison.</div>
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5. They know the players in their field, and they recognize the fakers. The specialists are also known (and respected) by the Judges, the Court attorneys, the Court Clerks, and the other lawyers in the case (if there are multiple parties). For the generalist, being in a big case against specialists is like playing an away game in bad weather after a west coast plane trip.</div>
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1. Specialize (focus/concentrate) in SOMETHING(s). Even if you are still a generalist, have one or two areas where you act like a specialist. Define yourself by it...... "I'm a ________ lawyer", make systems for it, take extra CLE in it, follow all the cases, and otherwise get really good at it. About five years ago I decided to do this with probate and estate administration. It's been a practice (and life) changer.</div>
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2. Despite everything said above, general practice experience actually makes one a more effective specialist. In a strange way, and especially today, general practice can be a specialty unto itself, IF one recognizes that there is great value in evaluating situations, handling matters when appropriate, but also...using your knowledge and experience to MAKE GREAT REFERRALS....which is the essence of specializing in general practice.....more on this in the next post.</div>
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Questions sometimes arise about where to keep a Will, and who to tell about a Will. In a perfect world, where families are close and people communicate openly, this would not be an issue. The person who makes a will should discuss it with his trusted family members and tell them where the will is, confident in the knowledge that when the time comes, the will will be found and its terms carried out. </div>
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Unfortunately, sometimes it's not that way. Sometimes clients have to resort to deception and skulduggery just to make their will, and they want to keep it a secret. Sometimes they are comfortable having people know they made a Will, but they don't want the location of the Will to be known. </div>
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In those situations I always look at whether anyone with access to the will would benefit from its disappearance. I recently had a client whose closest living relative is a nephew. He likes the nephew well enough, but they are not close. He has the nephew in the will for about $50,000, has some other cash bequests, and leaves the rest (about $400,000) to his best friend, and if his best friend dies first, to his friend's family. I know this client long enough and well enough to know this is all legit, but he is very concerned that his nephew would be called to his residence if he died, and the will would not be secure. (As an aside, in my view a person would have to be conscience-less to destroy a Will, but sadly there are a lot of folks like that) My client is uncomfortable keeping the Will in a safe deposit box, and uncomfortable about leaving it with me. I suggested that we file the Will for safekeeping with Surrogates Court, while he is still living. </div>
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Many people, including lawyers, don't know you can do this. You CAN, and it can be very useful. It costs $45 to file. The benefit of this is clear: A person who doesn't like the Will can't get at it. Furthermore, if the person dies and the bad person tries to file an Administration proceeding as if there were no Will (which is what they always do), the Surrogates Court clerks ALWAYS checks for wills on file. This stops the bad guys in their tracks. I have filed wills for safekeeping quite a few times in the last 30 years. I know of a few instances where it prevented mischief. Just as important though, is that the clients always felt better having done it, and they always appreciated the advice.</div>
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